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 Post subject: David Cameron's Jewish roots
PostPosted: 27 Jun 2017, 09:21 
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http://empirestrikesblack.com/2014/01/all-in-the-family-david-camerons-jewish-roots-and-the-coreligionists-who-brought-him-to-power/

David Cameron: "I am a Zionist"

While speaking to a 500-strong group of Jewish lobbyists in London in 2007, UK Prime Minister David Cameron declared, “I am a Zionist“. He went on to add, “I’m not just a good friend of Israel but I am, as you put it, good for Jews.”
These comments can easily be explained merely as fawning attempts to placate and appease the Jewish lobby – a necessary step for any who wish to assume high office. One has to ask the question though: why does ‘Anglican’ David Cameron conceal his own Jewish identity?
David Cameron is not merely of Jewish descent; he hails from a bloodline that can fairly be described as Jewish royalty, yet he claims never to have known this. As he spoke to the Movement for Reform Judaism in 2010 he described his learning of his Jewish ancestry as the “highlight” of his year.
While studying the Cameron family tree in 2009, Dr Yaakov Wise – a University of Manchester historian who specialises in Jewish history – found that David Cameron is descended from a highly distinguished Jewish family line (emphases added):
And according to Dr Wise, who has been using archival material to examine the Cameron family tree, the Tory leader could also be a direct descendent of the greatest ever Hebrew prophet, Moses.
Cameron is a descendent of banker Emile Levita, who came to Britain as a German immigrant in the 1850s. Emile Levita was himself a descendent of Elijah Levita, who lived from 1469-1549.



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 Post subject: Re: David Cameron's Jewish roots
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So he is, or claims to be, a Jew.
Is that a bad thing and, if so, why is it a bad thing?



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 Post subject: Re: David Cameron's Jewish roots
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Nothing wrong with being a Jew. The Labour MP Gerald Kaufman was a practicing Jew and one of the finest politicians to have been elected to the Commons. A man of principle, I should add.

With Cameron, it is not so much his Jewish roots but his pronouncement to a 500-strong group of Jewish lobbyists that he is a Zionist. In my book, Zionism is something fundamentally evil and Gerald Kaufman would have agreed with me on that.

Then there is the issue of his declaration his [Cameron's] values are Jewish while insisting that migrants adopt British values. Which is it to be ... British or Jewish? I know something about Jewish values and they ain't British, I can assure you. They are exclusively Jewish.

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 Post subject: Re: David Cameron's Jewish roots
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Don't Muslims adopt Muslim values/ethics even if they have British nationality?



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 Post subject: Re: David Cameron's Jewish roots
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They don't "adopt" Muslim ethics. They hold them as a way of life. For example, when the Grenfell Tower fire started, Muslims and Muslim organisations were immediately active in rescuing and helping victims of the criminal disaster. It is an injunction in the Holy Qur'an that a Muslim must help anyone in genuine need, irrespective of religion or nationality. Excellent ethics, would you not say?

On the other hand, in the Jewish Talmud it is written that a Jew must not assist a Gentile. That a Jew can rape a Gentile child and a Jew can rob a Gentile. In the Book of Deuteronomy, the God of Israel instructs the Jews (Hebrews) to invade neighbours' land, kill and steal their property and take land and property of others as their own. The Jews regard non-Jews as not possessing souls (given one believes in the soul) and are therefore inferior to Jews and not human. The concept of the Chosen People includes their belief they are morally superior to all non-Jews and that the purpose of Gentiles is to serve the Jews. These are David Cameron's Jewish values.

Britain First: Paul Golding's "Christian values" against Muslims helping victims of Grenfell Tower fire.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/britain-first-grenfell-tower-fire-muslims-help-victims-racist-london-islamophobia-east-london-mosque-a7790991.html

Celebrities speak out against Zionist Jews (video)

https://youtu.be/_xchaB_JcAY



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 Post subject: Re: David Cameron's Jewish roots
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EuropeanAction wrote:
They don't "adopt" Muslim ethics. They hold them as a way of life. For example, when the Grenfell Tower fire started, Muslims and Muslim organisations were immediately active in rescuing and helping victims of the criminal disaster.

As were many others regardless of faith.



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 Post subject: Re: David Cameron's Jewish roots
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But Muslim organisations were at the fore and there first. Do not try to demean their efforts or I shall deem it to be Islamophobic.

The subject of this thread concerns David Cameron's Jewish roots. Keep to the topic.



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 Post subject: Re: David Cameron's Jewish roots
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Back to topic:

In the Jewish Talmud it is written that a Jew must not assist a Gentile. That a Jew can rape a Gentile child and a Jew can rob a Gentile. In the Book of Deuteronomy, the God of Israel instructs the Jews (Hebrews) to invade neighbours' land, kill and steal their property and take land and property of others as their own. The Jews regard non-Jews as not possessing souls (given one believes in the soul) and are therefore inferior to Jews and not human. The concept of the Chosen People includes their belief they are morally superior to all non-Jews and that the purpose of Gentiles is to serve the Jews. These are David Cameron's Jewish values.



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 Post subject: Re: David Cameron's Jewish roots
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Only you could possibly construe my comments as demeaning Muslim organisations.
I have not made a single Islamophobic comment, not a single one. However, if you think you can find one I will withdraw it and apologise.
As for Cameron, I really don't care which faith he holds or none. What matters is how he does his job and whether his party gets back into power - and can't see the present coalition government staying thee course.



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 Post subject: Re: David Cameron's Jewish roots
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There was your complete failure to acknowledge the great work of Muslim organisations that suggests your utter contempt for them ... plus your previous activities as a moderator on a rabidly Islamophobic forum where you did nothing to stem the tide of religious hatred. That great work at the Grenfell Tower was very important in the early stages as Muslims were up and awake due to the ending of Ramadan. This enabled them to go around knocking up others in danger from the fire. They not only supplied food, clothing and shelter, fast and very efficiently, but enabled many to stay together in a spirit of community.

Of course there were others helping. That goes without saying. But the involvement of Muslim organisations was very significant. You chose not to join in praise of them due to your hatred of religion but, instead, came out with what you consider to be a typical smart-arse swerve, diminishing the help from Muslims. You are clearly Islamophobic and on the verge of a ban.

The subject of this thread is the Jewish roots of David Cameron. If you are not interested in this aspect of a failed PM then you should not be posting on this thread. The significance of this aspect of Cameron is he declares Jewish values and says he is a Zionist but insists others must adopt British values. I have explained some aspects of Jewish values on this thread and they are certainly not British as we understand it. The fact is, you are out of your depths again and can only attempt disruption ... which is typical of your own twisted perversity.

PS: There is no coalition government and the sooner the Tories go the better.

(Refka Ben Ltaifa: That's the true image of islam helping, sharing ,loving ........but unfortunately that image was corrupted by ignorance, hatred and racism. pls hate isis but not islam)



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 Post subject: Re: David Cameron's Jewish roots
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EuropeanAction wrote:
There was your complete failure to acknowledge the great work of Muslim organisations that suggests your utter contempt for them ...

Isn't this thread about DC having Jewish roots, not your fervid, erroneous rantings about my views on Islam nor your left-leaning political stance?
So to DC.....
As long as he isn't trying to impose his religious views on others or to the exclusion of other vies, I don't see that as a problem.
That he is intellectual is surely without doubt. Given his background, born into the upper echelons of society, his right wing stance is perhaps no surprise.
He might make a good ambassador but I'm not sure that he is the best choice as an MP. Has he ever mixed with those he is supposed to represent - the great unwashed, the proletariat?



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Besoeker wrote:
So he is, or claims to be, a Jew. Is that a bad thing and, if so, why is it a bad thing?


Besoeker wrote:
Don't Muslims adopt Muslim values/ethics even if they have British nationality?


You interjected with the above, both questions. It is then my prerogative to respond the way I did. You also wanted to know the relevance or significance of Cameron's Jewish roots so I told you that, as well. Obviously, they were not answers you wanted to read. You are out of your depth again. Glad to see you enlivened in discussion, at last.



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All that is totally irrelevant. Why? Because you produce no evidence. It could be total fabrication.

What has it got to do with David Cameron's Jewish roots? What has it got to do with Muslim and Jewish values? I will tell you ... sweet Fanny Adams.

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Besoeker wrote:
Isn't this thread about DC having Jewish roots, not your fervid, erroneous rantings about my views on Islam nor your left-leaning political stance?
So to DC.....
As long as he isn't trying to impose his religious views on others or to the exclusion of other vies, I don't see that as a problem.
That he is intellectual is surely without doubt. Given his background, born into the upper echelons of society, his right wing stance is perhaps no surprise.
He might make a good ambassador but I'm not sure that he is the best choice as an MP. Has he ever mixed with those he is supposed to represent - the great unwashed, the proletariat?


Rantings? No, matey, I am perfectly rational and offering very sound arguments which you largely ignore.

Left-leaning political stance? Only a far right reactionary would use such a phrase. The mask slips and we see what you really are.

Cameron is no intellectual but his background is in public relations. He is not a natural politician and he will not be forgiven for making a mess of the EU Referendum and letting the free traders win. He had to go. A recent poll claims the 'Remainers' would now win if we had another EU Referendum.



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And as I recall, you brought Islam into the discussion.



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No, matey, it was you. Here's the evidence on this page.

Besoeker wrote:
Don't Muslims adopt Muslim values/ethics even if they have British nationality?


This thread is now locked because it is reduced to a Punch and Judy Show on your part. "Oh, no I didn't ... Oh, yes, you did". You are pathetic.



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