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 Post subject: Re: Is hanging humane?
PostPosted: 03 Sep 2016, 11:44 
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Even when they get the wrong man?

And I see that you have taken to deleting my posts again.


To err is human ....

Read the forum rules. It is my prerogative to delete or edit posts as I see fit.



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 Post subject: Re: Is hanging humane?
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EuropeanAction wrote:
To err is human ....

That's precisely my point.
Thank you for making it.



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 Post subject: Re: Is hanging humane?
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Besoeker wrote:
That's precisely my point.
Thank you for making it.


Yet you think human error is inexcusable and reason not to execute condemned criminals.

If we froze at every point where man made an error we would not advance as a species.



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 Post subject: Re: Is hanging humane?
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I think no such thing. As my late, great friend Tommy frequently quoted:
"The man who never made a mistake never made anything."

The difference here is that you can't fix your mistake.



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 Post subject: Re: Is hanging humane?
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No, you can't bring the dead back to life but human error occurs in all walks of life.

America attacks innocent wedding parties in remote lands using drones. This is murder on a vast scale but the Americans think nothing of it. They don't even recognise the error. Collateral damage, they call it.

Murderers, rapists and child molesters must be executed. Of that I am sure. The problem arises when guilt is not without doubt. Modern forensics can play a role in alleviating the risks of error.



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I thought this thread was expressly NOT for the discussion of the ethics or otherwise of state sanctioned executions and to limit itself to methodology?


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I thought this thread was expressly NOT for the discussion of the ethics or otherwise of state sanctioned executions and to limit itself to methodology?


Blame Besoeker and his fake morality for that. He won't accept the justice of hanging and other methods.

He is now away for 28 days.

Is hanging humane? If carried out properly by a trained professional then yes. Even bullets can miss the target and simply maim. When it comes down to it, it is not so much the method but the competence of the people carrying out the operation.



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Besoeker wrote:
There is no evidence that capital punishment is a deterrent at all. I've already submitted figures on that.


Correct, capitol punishment is not a deterrent, it never has been and never will be. Most capitol crimes are done in the heat of the moment or premeditated, in these circs would the offender stop to consider the possible punishment for his crime if caught?

People who say capitol punishment acts as a deterrent are wrong, but that does not mean we should not use capitol punishment.

If punishment was a deterrent would we have 80,000 in the prison system?



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A life for a life. That is the principle behind it. It is justice ... the perfect balancing of the crime.



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https://youtu.be/6xi-agPf95M

Peter Cook as the judge at the Jeremy Thorpe trial. Go on, have a bloody good laugh.



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